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I thank the Member for giving way. I realise that I am drawing him back a little here, but Mr Buckley gave an example earlier about someone who has transitioned but changes their mind and seeks to detransition in that regard. We talked about how someone might risk prosecution by talking to that person and saying,…
I agree about respect. We must be mindful of the hurt that is out there. I hope that the Member and the House will agree that I have been respectful the whole way through my contribution. However, he has already agreed that heterosexuality is a sexual orientation. That adds to that definition. I also want to address…
We are in danger of straying into pretty dangerous and offensive territory. There is a difference between a sexual orientation, which is innate, and an impulsive sexual disorder, which people of any sexual orientation can experience. I encourage the Member to look at the World Health Organization's classification of…
Sex addiction and addiction to pornography are classified as sexual disorders, not sexual orientations. That issue is distinct from a person's sexual orientation. In fact, the motivation in that circumstance is not to suppress sexual orientation but to suppress the disorder that the person is struggling with, which is…
That was a helpful intervention by the Member. I teased out the question that I asked earlier about what is encapsulated by clause 6 and what the victim considers their sexual orientation or gender identity to be. It could be everything and anything. That is telling. I thank the Member for that intervention. A parent…
Mr Buckley is wrong, and I have already addressed that issue in the debate. We have employed universal definitions, so, just as it would be deemed illegal to act with intent to coerce, to harm or to offer someone therapy that harms them, to forcibly change them and force them to change their identity away from being…
I thank the Member for giving way. Much reference has been made to the potential for an individual who objects to life-changing, life-altering medical treatment, be that puberty blockers or medical procedures, and how they may fall under the Bill by refusing that. However, another section of individuals, who have not…
I thank my colleague for taking an intervention. I believe that he is referring to clause 2(1): "A person commits an offence if ... (b) the person has the intent of changing or suppressing". Is it the Member's view that a parent withholding the right to a child of ordering puberty blockers should they wish to, would…
Yes — a very, very, very, very bad Bill and a very dangerous Bill, as I have outlined. I move on to suppression. Clauses 1 and 2 include references to "suppressing". What is it to "suppress" someone's "sexual orientation or gender identity"? Is it a parent saying, "You cannot do that", "You cannot view that", "You…
I thank the Member for her intervention. That is what we are striving for: we are trying to get common ground to see exactly where we can go with regard to the Bill. However, if we do not like a Bill, we do not like a Bill, and we will explain why we do not like it. My colleague was highlighting the differences…
I thank the Member for giving way, and I will be brief. It sounds as though a bit of common ground is emerging tonight. Will the DUP support the proposed Westminster Bill?
I appreciate the Member's giving way, and I hope that I will not incur the wrath of the Deputy Speaker. In rebutting your point earlier, the Bill sponsor quoted Dr Cass's support for the Westminster legislation. Will the Member come to the clear differences between the proposed Westminster legislation and the Bill…
In a lot of those situations, the people who are giving counselling on that matter and supplying such drugs have based themselves in places such as Singapore and are therefore out of the reach of the UK justice system and outside of UK control and regulation. Is it right that such people can insidiously influence our…
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At the moment, if a professional is not acting in line with their code of ethics or their professional standards, their regulatory and professional bodies will launch an investigation, which could result in their being struck off and not permitted to practise. The Bill explicitly excludes health professionals who are…
There is clearly a public debate taking place on trans healthcare and what the pathway should look like, and I do not dispute that different views have been expressed. There is, however, broad consensus among medical and psychotherapy organisations that conversion therapy is not acceptable. For example, Professor Cass…
I believe that that danger is real — I really do — and it is purely down to the definitions in the Bill. Clause 6(2) specifies: "A reference to a victim’s sexual orientation includes the victim having no sexual orientation towards other persons." That goes to the point that I raised earlier. Mr O'Neill states: "The NI…