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I appreciate the Member's giving way. The Member gets right to the crux of the issue that is at the heart of the Bill. These Benches are very clear that people are free to describe themselves however they wish. However, subjective self-description by a person based on how they feel cannot become part of the basis for…
Given that a lot of the information I have read refers to multiple genders and changing genders etc, that is a non-answer and evasion by proposer of the Bill. When we consider legislation that will potentially criminalise parents, teachers, pastors, youth leaders, football team coaches — everybody and anybody; even…
It is a question that was posed during my opening speech, and I answered it. The answer is that it is not a question of whether a term used in the Bill is contested; the question is whether the courts will be capable of applying that concept, not to criminalise a belief about a particular gender identity but to…
Before I give way, the proposer of the Bill has been asked a question about the issue of gender identity and how many genders he considers there to be. I am happy to give way to the proposer of the Bill if he wants to answer that question and have it on the record.
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Thank you for the clarification. In my remarks, I was referring to clause 6, which is very important and embeds in law concepts that we have not had before. It is important, and it is worthy of our exploration and our debate.
On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. The Principal Deputy Speaker gave guidance on the fact that gender identity is not to be discussed in terms of this legislation. This is — Continue sneering, jeering and showing yourselves up as the bigots you are if you want to, but this is not what we are discussing here.
I thank the Member for giving way, because that is a very important point that a lot of Members in the Chamber have sought to dismiss and ignore. Does the Member think that it is disappointing in the extreme that the Bill sponsor is unable to put on the record of the House which gender identities he feels that the…
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No. Sorry, I was going to sit down, but no. Further commentary on the Bill is provided by the Women's Rights Network. The Women's Rights Network is well known for its views on safe spaces for women and on the fact that sex is immutable and unchangeable, so I am a woman and will always be one. That is important to…
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No; not for a minute. I need to make a bit of progress. The Bill leaves an enormous amount of room for that to happen. Parents could be caught by any of those things in the Bill. Does the intent of "changing or suppressing" relate to "counselling", "talking therapy" and "coaching or instruction"? Those are important…
I appreciate what you are saying about practicalities, and I would understand it if those practicalities were the concern, but none of that is of concern if nobody wants to suppress or change someone's gender identity. Only if it is your intention to change a person's sexuality or gender identity would this come into…
I do not agree, and I do not agree for a very specific reason. Look at clause 1, which states that a person commits an offence if that person: "carries out conversion therapy in relation to another person ("the victim")" — or — "has the intent of changing or suppressing the sexual orientation or gender identity of the…
I thank the Member for giving way. I appreciate that she is trying to give some sense of the practical realities of what she sees as dangers to parenting. I am not a parent, and I have a degree of sympathy for somebody who is trying to parent teenagers. However, she is talking in generalisations. The Bill criminalises…
No: I will in a moment, but I want to finish. Are we willing to criminalise a parent for setting boundaries or a church pastor for having conversations about faith and biblical living? Those are fundamental issues.
I absolutely agree. When we think of the trauma of such a situation, we have to think of the trauma of the young person. All sides will have difficult emotions to face. The question that the Assembly must ask itself, when we consider the role of parents and the impact of this legislation, is this: are we willing to…
I thank my colleague for taking an intervention, which is on the defence in the Bill that we are now calling the "reasonableness defence". She touched on an interesting point that is worth widening a little. I do not think that parents would want to find themselves in a criminal court, using a defence of…
I thank the Member for giving way. That is an example of a situation in which many parents may well find themselves under the Bill. Will the Member agree that that example would fall not just under clause 8 but under the coercive behaviour provision in clause 5, which at subsection (1)(c) refers to "monitoring the ...…