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  1. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    The Member has just joined us in the Chamber for, I think, the first time today, and he has obviously got his social media clip. I do not know whether he is trying to make an appeal so that he keeps his seat in Foyle or whose benefit that was for. I will not, however, be lectured on my faith by him.

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  2. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I thank the Member for giving way on that. We have heard the phrase "chilling effect" time and time again. It is, frankly, ridiculous, because the chilling effect that has been had on the LGBTQIA+ community by political unionism here for 100 years is the real "chilling effect". The fact that people in the LGBTQIA+…

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  3. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I thank the Member for giving way. You have talked about the issue of vexatious claims and the law being vague and not precise enough. However, there is also the issue of this law striking fear into people who are practising in a conventional therapist's way. I have quoted this interesting point a number of times —I…

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  4. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I thank the Member for that. To get back to what the Bill sponsor said, I understand that that is the job of the courts: to decide those things based on the law. However, I also understand that, where the law is clear, fewer things are defined by the courts and by case law. My colleague Mr Buckley is quoting cases; if…

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  5. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I thank the Member for giving way. That is a very interesting and telling point. Mr Tennyson is absolutely right that any law that is passed by this House could lead to vexatious complaints. However, when Members introduce private Member's Bills or Ministers introduce Executive legislation, it is incumbent on us to…

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  6. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I thank the Member for giving way. The "No right to claim trial by jury" clause has been raised a couple of times. I have already set out that I did not initiate that proposal: it came about as a result of engagement with the offences and penalties team in the Department of Justice, who advised that it would be…

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  7. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I thank the Member for giving way. She has talked about the chilling effect that could, ultimately, lead to the impact of an ongoing PPS-type intrusive investigation to establish whether a crime has been committed under this legislation. In addition, and this is a point that has not been laboured, clause 9 is…

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  8. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    Thank you, Minister, for that. I will go back to the point that we were addressing on what should be in the Bill so that it is not left to the court to interpret grey areas and to lawyers to battle it out in the courtroom. I said that I have been through the private Member's Bill consultation process and that I…

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  9. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    • Mr Gordon Lyons DUP
    • Private Members' Business
    • As a minister

    I am grateful to the Member for giving way. I assure her and the House that what Mr Tennyson insinuated about me is not correct at all. Crimes are crimes, and, whether they happen in public view, behind closed doors or in a domestic setting, they should be dealt with appropriately and fully. I am not giving any excuse…

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  10. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    • Mr Paul Givan DUP
    • Private Members' Business
    • As a minister

    The problem with Mr Tennyson's framing his argument in the way in which he does is that, on the face of it, someone may think that that would be entirely reasonable. When you look, however, at the definition of "harm" in his Bill, you see that clause 8 states: "psychological harm includes fear, alarm or distress." It…

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  11. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    That comment is completely out of order. The Minister, my party and I have been firm on tackling domestic abuse. Paul Frew had amendments made to legislation. The Minister for Communities has taken significant steps to address issues that relate to victims of domestic abuse.

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  12. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I appreciate the Member's being generous and giving way. I can answer that point: it is conduct that amounts to therapy or coercive behaviour carried out with the intent to suppress or change someone's sexual orientation or gender identity in a way that results in physical or psychological harm. That is the behaviour…

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  13. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    I thank the Member for giving way. The Minister makes a very interesting point, because it would be not the law according to Eóin Tennyson's contribution at Second Stage but the law according to the Bill. The Member set out some of the loosely defined terms in a logical way. There is legitimate concern that a court's…

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  14. Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

    • Mr Gordon Lyons DUP
    • Private Members' Business
    • As a minister

    I thank the Member for giving way. One of the core issues that we are dealing with in some of the defence that Mr Tennyson gives is that he says, "A court would not do that", or, "It would never be the case that this would be allowed through", or, "The courts would throw this out", or, "It would never get as far as…

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