Debate contribution: Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage

Debate contribution by Mr Paul Frew on .

MLA
Mr Paul Frew
Party at the time
Democratic Unionist Party
Date
15 September 2026
Type
Debate contribution
Business
Private Members' Business
Heading
Conversion Practices (Criminalisation) Bill: Second Stage
Assembly identifier
Official Report component 5707282

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Text

There may well be genders out there that, the vast majority of people in this country think, are unreasonable. That is why the unreasonableness test or the "reasonable persons" test in this regard is highly problematic. It is not what the reasonable person thinks; it may be someone who is suffering in fear, alarm and distress. The Bill sponsor does not have to answer immediately — he can research his Bill — but does that include heterosexual persons? Does that mean that, if someone tries to suppress that person's heterosexual gender identity, provides drugs to teenagers who are confused or performs irreversible surgery on young adults, that is seen by some reasonable people as coercive, abusive and degrading? Does it work both ways? If a parent bullies their children into being something different, does the Bill capture that parent? I would be really interested to know. That is how it is defined. It is what the victim considers it to be and what the person considers it to be, so how do you know if you are suppressing somebody's gender identity or sexual orientation if you do not know what their sexual orientation or gender identity is? There is no defence for that. There is no defence of ignorance in that regard. We talked about the heterosexual person, but what about the xenogender? What if someone came home and told their parents that they wanted to be identified as an animal, nature, a colour, an object, a fictional or abstract concept or a particular sensation or emotion? I see people smirking, but there are people in our society who live in fear, distress or alarm because they have those tendencies.

280 words. Text as published by the Northern Ireland Assembly.

Assessment

Uncertain: close call Gender, sexuality, abortion and related social issues

Uncertain: this record is published but not counted in any total.

  • Overall probability that the activity is being used to promote, exploit or escalate an identity-based controversy: 0.74 (flagging needs at least 0.70; at or below 0.30 is not flagged).
  • Criteria met: Dog-whistle messaging (0.90).
  • The text adopts the identity-based framing in its own voice (0.49).
  • Subject area: Gender, sexuality, abortion and related social issues.
  • The answers did not meet either automatic threshold.

This is an AI-generated assessment of the text, made against published criteria. It is not a finding of fact about the MLA or their intentions. The Assembly record itself is the fact.

Jev’s structured answers

Probability that each statement is true of this text (0 = no, 1 = yes). A criterion counts as met at 0.60 or above.
QuestionProbabilityMet?
Identity framing0.32No
Sectarian or communal antagonism0.42No
Cultural grievance politics0.04No
Dog-whistle messaging0.90Yes
Controversy escalation0.56No
Legitimate policy scrutiny0.52No
Overall judgement0.74Above flagging threshold
Context and attribution (stance)
OptionProbability
No identity-based framing0.36
Reports or questions it0.14
Criticises or condemns it0.01
Adopts it (chosen)0.49
Subject area (top five)
SubjectProbability
Gender, sexuality, abortion and related social issues1.00
No identity-related subject0.00
Flags, emblems, symbols, names and memorials0.00
Parades, bonfires and commemorations0.00
Irish language, Ulster-Scots and language policy0.00

Assessed 21 October 2026 at 16:22 UTC by jev-1.13.0 (requested as typesafe/jev) under rubric 2026.10-r9, methodology 1.9.

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