Debate contribution: Justice Bill: Consideration Stage

Debate contribution by Mr Gerry Carroll on .

MLA
Mr Gerry Carroll
Party at the time
People Before Profit Alliance
Date
8 June 2026
Type
Debate contribution
Business
Executive Committee Business
Heading
Justice Bill: Consideration Stage
Assembly identifier
Official Report component 5601101

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I was initially talking about misuse by the police, but it could be misused by a shop owner, a business or somebody who does not like somebody else and wants to complain about them. It is broad, and there are no safeguards in that regard. I have concerns about that. Poverty is not a crime, and those who are destitute are not criminals. The Member spoke earlier about coercion, trafficking and people being exploited. There are already laws to deal with those crimes, where there is real concern that they are happening. I will not support re-criminalising begging in a different way, through a different amendment, although I realise that I may be in a minority of one. I support amendment No 73, which relates to the abolition of offences of blasphemy. It was straightforward, to me, on my initial reading. The offences of blasphemy and blasphemous libel are a relic of an old, outdated age. They have no place in a modern society that values free expression. I would challenge the assertions that were made by the Member for North Belfast and, I think, the Member for North Antrim that Christians are under threat in the UK and Ireland. That is simply not true. There is freedom of expression, freedom of religion and freedom to practise religion. As an atheist, I defend the right of any organisation, including Christian organisations, to retain that freedom. A lot of myths are being put out, and we need to challenge them in respect of this amendment and more generally. I also challenge the assertion, which was made in different ways, that Muslims have it easy or great in Ireland, whether in the North of Ireland or elsewhere. Muslims face racism, harassment and all sorts of other repressive actions. I found the Member for North Belfast's comments about a cabal of "left-wing comedians" strange. I would like him to show me examples. We have to challenge the idea that Christianity is under the cosh or under challenge. That is not true. For that reason, and many more, I will support amendment No 73. I thank the Member for tabling it.

I have some issues with amendment No 78, similar to those outlined by the Member for South Belfast. We are, obviously, unequivocally opposed to exploitation, coercion and trafficking. Where those things exist, the full force of the law should follow. People should be prosecuted and stand trial for that. That is not solely what the amendment does, however. It also criminalises the advertising of sexual services "regardless", to use its own word, of whether anyone makes a penny from it. That is sweeping and general, and I share the Member for South Belfast's concerns about targeting and criminalising people who engage in sex work. Regardless of whether people morally like it or not, it happens, it is a reality, and adults make a choice to do it and take part in it. I am concerned that those things are being lumped together.

499 words. Text as published by the Northern Ireland Assembly.

Assessment

Not flagged

Jev’s structured answers met the documented threshold for “not flagged”.

  • Overall probability that the activity is being used to promote, exploit or escalate an identity-based controversy: 0.14 (flagging needs at least 0.70; at or below 0.30 is not flagged).
  • None of the five culture-war criteria was met (each was below 0.60).
  • Assessed as legitimate policy scrutiny (0.87).
  • The text criticises or condemns the framing or division (0.93).
  • Subject area: Religion and belief (including people of no religion), churches, faith communities and religious prejudice (including antisemitism and anti-Muslim prejudice).
  • The overall probability was at or below the not-flagging threshold.

This is an AI-generated assessment of the text, made against published criteria. It is not a finding of fact about the MLA or their intentions. The Assembly record itself is the fact.

Jev’s structured answers

Probability that each statement is true of this text (0 = no, 1 = yes). A criterion counts as met at 0.60 or above.
QuestionProbabilityMet?
Identity framing0.17No
Sectarian or communal antagonism0.03No
Cultural grievance politics0.13No
Dog-whistle messaging0.07No
Controversy escalation0.27No
Legitimate policy scrutiny0.87Yes
Overall judgement0.14At or below not-flagging threshold
Context and attribution (stance)
OptionProbability
No identity-based framing0.06
Reports or questions it0.01
Criticises or condemns it (chosen)0.93
Adopts it0.00
Subject area (top five)
SubjectProbability
Religion and belief (including people of no religion), churches, faith communities and religious prejudice (including antisemitism and anti-Muslim prejudice)1.00
No identity-related subject0.00
Flags, emblems, symbols, names and memorials0.00
Parades, bonfires and commemorations0.00
Irish language, Ulster-Scots and language policy0.00

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