Debate contribution: Justice Bill: Consideration Stage

Debate contribution by Mr Peter Martin on .

MLA
Mr Peter Martin
Party at the time
Democratic Unionist Party
Date
16 June 2026
Type
Debate contribution
Business
Executive Committee Business
Heading
Justice Bill: Consideration Stage
Assembly identifier
Official Report component 5624710

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I thank the Minister for her intervention. I certainly understand the logic behind her arguments. I remain at a place where I think that there is a difference. I understand that, when we are drafting legislation, there has to be a level of definition when it comes to some crimes. However, I still do not accept the argument that a child of that age will realise that attempted murder is wrong but will have a different view of grievous bodily harm with intent. I will move on. I did not want to speak for that long, but I will make a couple of other points. It is right and proper that, as we look at this issue — I will come on to victims in a minute — we look at the perpetrators of those crimes. We are talking about very serious crimes. I was very glad that my colleague Mr Givan stated clearly that some of the perpetrators of those crimes come from incredibly challenging backgrounds. I listened to the contribution from the Member for North Belfast while I was upstairs. I apologise for not being down here. We know that those from care-experienced backgrounds are much more likely to have an encounter with the justice system. When they commit those crimes, they need rehabilitation because, at some point, we want them to come out the other side of that justice system as reasonable young people who can integrate back into society. They will need support, including education, to integrate into society, but they will need that in a secure setting. That brings me to another point. We talk a lot about criminalising those young people. That term has been used a lot in the debate. People beyond the Chamber may not understand the nuances of what we are talking about in here. When an 11-year-old or a 12-year-old commits a very serious offence — the number of such cases is incredibly small — they are not sent to Maghaberry or another prison. I will defer to the Minister of Justice if I am wrong, but my understanding is that, in a situation in which a serious crime has been committed, the young person is most likely to end up in the Woodlands facility in my constituency. That facility — I looked it up — offers secure accommodation, education and training, healthcare and mental health support, recreation and sports facilities, and programmes aimed at reducing reoffending and helping young people to return to the community.

If a young person commits a serious crime, that is where they go.

429 words. Text as published by the Northern Ireland Assembly.

Assessment

Not flagged

Jev’s structured answers met the documented threshold for “not flagged”.

  • Overall probability that the activity is being used to promote, exploit or escalate an identity-based controversy: 0.06 (flagging needs at least 0.70; at or below 0.30 is not flagged).
  • None of the five culture-war criteria was met (each was below 0.60).
  • Assessed as legitimate policy scrutiny (0.92).
  • No identity-based framing was identified (1.00).
  • Subject area: Sexism, misogyny, ageism and other equality groups.
  • The overall probability was at or below the not-flagging threshold.

This is an AI-generated assessment of the text, made against published criteria. It is not a finding of fact about the MLA or their intentions. The Assembly record itself is the fact.

Jev’s structured answers

Probability that each statement is true of this text (0 = no, 1 = yes). A criterion counts as met at 0.60 or above.
QuestionProbabilityMet?
Identity framing0.04No
Sectarian or communal antagonism0.03No
Cultural grievance politics0.01No
Dog-whistle messaging0.04No
Controversy escalation0.04No
Legitimate policy scrutiny0.92Yes
Overall judgement0.06At or below not-flagging threshold
Context and attribution (stance)
OptionProbability
No identity-based framing (chosen)1.00
Reports or questions it0.00
Criticises or condemns it0.00
Adopts it0.00
Subject area (top five)
SubjectProbability
Sexism, misogyny, ageism and other equality groups0.61
No identity-related subject0.24
Gender, sexuality, abortion and related social issues0.07
Another identity-related subject0.04
Disability (including neurodivergence and mental health), disabled people and disability or sickness benefits0.02

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